to placate his base.
says "California's border congressman." I imagine that refers to his district, but in reality, he's borderline insane.
Smash (a.k.a. Indepundit--see my blogroll) attended along with a few other patriots who asked the hard questions.
SMASH: Congressman, I'd first like to express appreciation and gratitude, as a veteran of the Iraq War, and on behalf of all veterans, for all the important work you've done on Capitol Hill in support of veterans' issues.
SMASH: But I do have a question...
We all want the war to end, and the troops to come home safely -- especially those of us who have been there. But, putting aside for the moment your differences, and the differences of most of those here, with the current administration on the policies that got us to where we are today:
Are you committed to the success of our military in Iraq, or are you resigned to failure?
WOMAN: What's your definition of "success?"
SMASH: I heard a question on the definition of "success," so: a stable, representative government that is capable of protecting itself against threats, without outside assistance.
FILNER: Well, I mean, first of all, let me say I don't, I don't want to be seen as a defender of the previous regime, but that was, I think, the previous regime.
FILNER: Why did we go in? You know, that's what Saddam claimed to have, right? You've got to add some human rights to that, so...
SMASH: Sure, yeah, representative --
FILNER: No, see, you, what you have done, is what I just talked about. That, how the President has gotten away with framing the issue. You framed the issue as "success or failure." And obviously, if you're "failure," you're a -- you're a jerk, right?
...Look, we -- First of all, things can't get much worse than they are now, by the way. They are pretty bad, no matter what Cheney says, no matter what Rumsfeld says. I mean, when you have 200 people killed, you know, in a day --
SMASH: Sir, I've been there --
FILNER: And you know, your brothers and sisters killed, something is wrong. ...And, you know, if we shouldn't have been in there to begin with, then it should not be incumbent on me to try to define getting out.
But I would say, that an international police force, which could keep the peace, it would -- that if we should put that in place at least --
SMASH: Led by whom, sir?
FILNER: The United Nations.
SMASH: But, who provides the troops, sir? ...Every international peace force that's ever been of any substantial size, has been led by the United States. There is no other --
FILNER: Well, you know, it doesn't have to be, because it was in the past. But, the British have shown that they want to put troops in, we've got all kinds of --
SMASH: They're already there, sir.
MAN: One question! C'mon, one question, sit down...
FILNER: No, I say, if they could be part of the United Nations. But, I will tell you, even if U.S. troops were part of a U.N. force, and under -- not under -- that would be a Hell of a lot better than we are now. Because we -- because our presence there, has become part of the problem, probably the major part of the problem. So, until we remove our presence, there is going to be an insurgency.
So, as long as we're there, we're failing, in my opinion.
...Look, if you define success as "democracy," you know, why -- why would you choose Iraq to go anywhere, anyway? I mean, why are we supporting Saudi Arabia, or whatever? So, success can't be "democracy." Success can't be "lack of autocracy," because we support autocrats other places.
Success, it seems to me for these guys, is control of, not only the -- the strategic positioning, but the oil. So, success for me would say, "we don't need your lousy oil." We could start -- we could put -- we can run this whole country off renewable energy, right this minute.
And, we -- we wouldn't even care what happened in Iraq. Like we don't care what's going on in Africa, and we don't care what's going on in Saudi Arabia, we don't care what's going on in all these other nations...
Why do we care what happens in this little nation? One reason --
FILNER: And, so, let's get off oil, and let's care about human rights in their real form, everywhere.
The moonbats were barking that day! Read the whole thing, it's very entertaining especially when they describe how they wiped the pompus holier-than-thou smirk off of the congressman's face and transformed him into a sweating, pale hulk.
questions to the congressman! Filner doesn't have time for those types of questions... he's far too busy smearing the President and playing to the moonbat crowd.