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Tuesday, January 17, 2006

A Petain in the Butt

I am really sick and tired of liberals playing up Murtha's military record and then complaining that because we (conservatives) disagree with his "let's force our troops to fail" argument we somehow question his patriotism (even though the nature of his argument forces the question). The fact is, this just isn't the case. We argue that his position is damaging to the troops and that his motivations are more political than of genuine concern for the troops; we go on to explain why we think all this, too.

Now, as for the "how DARE we question his patriotism" argument: let's look at another person in history and see if people like Murtha should be immune from any criticism on their patriotism simply because of their past service.

Marshal Henri Philippe Benoni Omer Joseph Pétain (24 April 185623 July 1951), generally known as Philippe Pétain or Marshal Pétain, was a French general and war hero, later Head of State of Vichy France, from 1940 to 1944. Due to his military leadership in World War I, he was viewed as a hero in France, but his actions during World War II resulted in his being convicted and sentenced to death for treason, which was commuted to life imprisonment by Charles de Gaulle. In modern France, he is generally considered a traitor, and pétainisme is a derogatory term for certain reactionary policies.

How DARE the French question his patriotism! Sure, he may have stumped for the Nazi's and betrayed his countrymen, but did they serve in the military?! If they didn't, then they have no right to complain or question his motives. That is, if I took the logical conclusions of the left to its honest ends... but the left rarely does that.

The fact is this argument is merely done to stifle any kind of debate on Murtha's position. Democrats play up Murtha's (and any other Democrat's) record in the military to try and gain ethos among people. They need it given their obvious anti-military positions and/or demagoguery. Just for the record, my friend sent me a list of Republican Senators who have served:

Bob Bennett (R-UT)
Conrad Burns (R-MT)
Thad Cochran (R-MS)
Larry Craig (R-ID) [Veterans' Affairs Committee Chair]
Mike Enzi (R-WY)
Lindsey Graham (R-SC) - JAG, Air Force Reserve [Active]
Chuck Hagel (R-NE) - Vietnam
James Inhofe (R-OK)
Johnny Isakson (R-GA)
Dick Lugar (R-IN) [Foreign Relations Committee Chair]
John McCain (R-AZ) - Vietnam
Pat Roberts (R-KS) [Intelligence Committee Chair]
Jeff Sessions (R-AL)
Arlen Specter (R-PA)
Ted Stevens (R-AK) [Defense Appropriations Subcommittee Chair] - WWII
Craig Thomas (R-WY)
John Warner (R-VA) [Armed Services Committee Chair] - WWII, Korea

The reason you hear more about who has served in the military on the Democrat/left side, is because Republicans/conservatives view their military service as doing their job, or simply serving their country. Democrats/liberals see military service, and the military in general, as a political tool that can be used to gain political points with no respect-or really care- for the institution itself. After all, they're the ones effecting 'Bushitler's plan for world domination to benefit the oil companies.'

UPDATE: My friend has sent me a list of the GOP members of the House who served in the military to further smash this retarded "chickenhawk" argument from the left.

Todd Akin (MO)
Rodney Alexander (LA)
Spencer Bachus (AL)
J. Gresham Barrett (SC)
Michael Blirakis (FL)
Sherwood Boehlert (NY)
John Boehner (OH) [Candidate for Majority Leader]
Henry E. Brown, Jr (SC)
Dan Burton (IN)
Steve Buyer (IN) [Veteran's Affairs Committee Chairman] - Active in Army Reserve, Gulf War Howard Coble (NC) - Korea
Michael Conaway (TX)
Tom Davis (VA)
Geoff Davis (KY)
Nathan Deal (GA)
Jimmy Duncan, Jr (TN)
Terry Everett (AL)
Rodney Frelinghuysen (NJ) - Vietnam
Jim Gibbons (NV) - Vietnam
Wayne Gilchrest (MD) - Vietnam
Paul Gillmor (OH)
Louie Gohmert (TX)
Virgil Goode (VA)
Ralph Hall (TX) - WWII
Doc Hastings (WA) [Ethics Committee Chair]
David Hobson (OH)
Duncan Hunter (CA) [Armed Services Committee Chair] - Vietnam
Henry Hyde (IL) [International Relations Committee Chair] - WWII
Darryl Issa (CA)
Bill Jenkins (TN)
Sam Johnson (TX) - Vietnam
Walter B. Jones (NC)
Pete King (NY) [Homeland Security Committee Chair]
Mark Steven Kirk (IL) - Panama
John Kline (MN) - Vietnam, Gulf War?
Joe Knollenberg (MI)
Jim Kolbe (AZ) - Vietnam
Ron Lewis (KY)
John Linder (GA)
Gary Miller (CA)
Charlie Norwood (GA) - Vietnam
Tom Osborne (NE)
Butch Otter (ID)
Ron Paul (TX)
Steve Pearce (NM) - Vietnam
John E. Peterson (PA)
Joe Pitts (PA) - Vietnam
Ted Poe (TX)
Jim Ramstad (MN)
Ralph Regula (OH)
Dave Reichert (WA)
Thomas Reynolds (NY) [NRCC Chair]
Harold Rogers (KY)
Mike Rogers (MI) [Candidate for Majority Whip]
Joe Schwarz (MI) - Vietnam
John Shadegg (AZ) [Candidate for Majority Leader]
Don Sherwood (PA)
John Shimkus (IL)
Rob Simmons (CT) - Vietnam
Mike Sodrel (IN)
Cliff Stearns (FL)
Dave Weldon (FL)
Edward Whitfield (KY)
Roger Wicker (MS)
Joe Wilson (SC)
Heather Wilson (NM)
Frank Wolf (VA)
C.W. Bill Young (FL)
Don Young (AK)

Also, he gave these quick statistics:
Of the 108 House members who served, 69 are GOPers, 39 are Dems. 64% are Republican.

Out of 231 Republicans, 69 have served, or 30%.
Out of 202 Democrats, 39 have served, or 19%.

In the Senate 31 served in the military. 17 are GOPers and 14 are Dems. 55% are Republican.

Out of 55 Republicans 17 have served, or 31%.
Out of 44 Democrats and 1 Ind., 14 have served, or 32%.

Also note: 2 of 3 candidates for Majority Leader are vets; the Chairs of the Armed Services, Foreign Relations, VA, and Intel Committees in the Senate are all vets; the Chairs of the Armed Services, IR, VA, and Homeland Security Committees in the House are all vets.

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